They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite.
on Oct 21 in Uncategorized by DanRemember me posting this a couple of weeks ago?:
If you ask Amy what she wants to be when she grows up she’ll give you one of two answers – either “a famous pop star” or “a horse riding teacher”. It’s very hard not to take these responses as a indication that I’ve failed as a father.
Well I’m delighted to inform you that I am not quite the parental wash-out that I first feared. Because although I’m still struggling to work out a strategy to steer my daughter through the cultural mire of banal vapid role models; my son has quietly forged his own path. And a glorious path it is too.
Evan will not grow up to be a pop star, or a horse rider, or a princess. Not for him is the cliched career of the soldier, fireman, or football player. No, Evan is going to be a member of the noblest profession of all – someone who hits other people over the head with a frying pan for a living.
Evan has discovered Tom and Jerry. To say he likes them is a bit like saying that my brother Sam likes looking at himself in the mirror. The boy is obsessed.
Evan’s attraction to the show could have something to do with the fact he’s been watching it up in our bedroom. There is something rather luxurious about watching TV in bed, and often that sense of opulence bleeds through and gives an additional shine to whatever you happen to be watching. How else can you explain how I managed to sit through three quarters of Spiderman 3 the other night before turning it off.
But, whatever the reason, Evan loves his Tom and Jerry. And to be honest I couldn’t be happier.
Which is interesting.
Time was Tom and Jerry was held up as an example of hyper violent children’s programming. As the worst specimen of a genre of cartoons that warped fragile minds and were bound to produce a generation of psychopaths. Recently repeats of the show have even been reviewed by OFCOM after complaints that it’s unsuitable for young children.
So why am I happy about Evan watching it? Why aren’t I as concerned about it as I am about Amy watching Hannah Montana? Surely if I am worried about the cultural influence of the Cyrus clan on my daughter’s aspirations then I should be even more worried about teaching my son that extreme violence is a form of entertainment? Why have I decided that one is acceptable, and one is a cultural canker?
Because I’m a hypocrite, that’s why. Quite simply I like Tom and Jerry and I don’t like Hannah Montana, it’s a plain and pathetic as that. I’ve even gone as far as actively encouraging his fascination with the cartoon. This morning I spent £25 on a 6 volume boxed set of Tom and Jerry cartoons (unless of course Kerry is reading this – then it only cost £6.99). I’ve even begun to consider whether to supplement it with a set of Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny cartoons as well. My hypocrisy knows no bounds and I should be ashamed of myself .
Now here’s the bit where I try and justify myself.
Tom and Jerry is a classic. It was created by artists, and shows real craftsmanship. Sure, the artists were working to commercial pressures in an genre which was given little credibility at the time., but then again so was Raymond Chandler. Tom and Jerry theatrical shorts won 7 Oscars and were nominated for a further 6. The cartoons ooze a quality that is only surpassed by Warner Bro’s Looney Tunes and possibly the output of Pixar Studios today. They are full to the brim with slapstick, satire, and effortless comedy timing, and are a joy to watch even now nearly 70 years after they were first produced.
Compare that to the bland and tepid extended merchandising advert that is Hannah Montana. It’s just not a fair fight.
In addition I think there are huge cultural benefits in consuming entertainment from previous generations. My own love of shows such as Hancock’s Half Hour, Sgt Bilko, and Laurel and Hardy is pretty well documented here on the blog, and it started developing during childhood. Not only do such programs give me a stick by which to measure more modern media, but they expand my horizons and ability to cultivate a more refined palate. You only get to watch a finite number of TV shows in your lifetime, it’s probably best to try to make sure you consume as little shit as possible.
But still, I’m a hypocrite. And so I must continue to struggle to work out what I really think about TV and the effect it has on my kids. But the fact that the struggle even exists in my mind gives me some comfort. It shows that at least I’m not completely passive in all this. That I’m aware that there are decisions to be made, even if I’m not sure yet what those decisions should be.

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so..he wants to hit people over the head with a pan…?
I think you should keep him away from Dinosaurs..just for your own safety :P
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@Arjan, Dinosaurs – now there was a classic show.
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
I’m always impressed by your self-awareness, and your ability to weave an open-ended morality statement at the close of your posts. It’s very poignant. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to dodge a falling piano.
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@Erin, for self awareness I think you should probably substitute navel gazing, and for open ended morality statement you should insert “lack of a point”
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
I’m with you bruh-thuh, I limit the girls’ intake of HM and other such crap severely (as in none around our house), but I have been getting them all the Looney Toons through Netflix.
What about Three Stooges? Do you include that in your “acceptable” category of our cultural patrimony? Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk…
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@JJ Daddy-O, Three stooges was never shown over here, so it’s outside my repertoire. I’ve a strong suspicion I’d be a fan though
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@Dan, Hmm, I am not sure if The Stooges are a taste that can be acquired later in life…
You know what, I must say I’m a big fan of your hypocrisy. Very eloquently justified sir. I bloody loved Tom and Jerry when I was a kid.
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@Kevin Spencer, Hipocracy is a vastly underrated quality
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
Oh how I loved Tom & Jerry as a lad. But only the ones where they were at odds. I didn’t like the later ones where they were friends.
And I literally laughed out loud when I read “Because I’m a hypocrite, that’s why.” Such fantastic straightforwardness.
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@Holmes, the later ones are very poor. the best are the ones that originally aired in cinemas
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
so if i understand this correctly, you’re hoping evan beats the hannah out of amy?
@bon bon, that about sums it up, yes.
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I hate to put this so bluntly, Dan, but my daughter used to love Tom and Jerry, but then she got a bit older and her focus became the dreaded Miss Montana.
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@Rosie Scribble, I can’t see that happening with Evan. although he does enjoy HSM music.
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TV is a big issue in our house. The little man wants to watch it too much and to watch too much of it.
But I’d love him to like Laurel and Hardy. The latter was even one of the reasons my son got his name!
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@Steve, I tried Evan with Laural and Hardy, but he’s a bit young for it yet. I think at around 7 is the best age.
Have you got the boxed set? It really is excellent. Well worth £45
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laurel-Hardy-Collection-21-disc-Box/dp/B0001K2KE8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1256235393&sr=8-1
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“I managed to sit through three quarters of Spiderman 3 the other night before turning it off”
If he does start hitting people with frying pans you could always punish him by watching Spider-Man 3 – maybe that’s a bit harsh.
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@Lee Sargent, I was tempted to show it him actually as he has a bit of a fascination with spiderman at the moment too. Not that he’s ever seen anything but spiderman toys and t shirts.
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
@Dan, mmmm I hadn’t actually given this much thought before, what’s a good character to start a young man off on a lifetime of comic book appreciation :)
Spider-Man does seem a natural choice as he is colourful (except in emo mode) and I think there are at least a couple of younger audience comics out there featuring Spider-Man.
Batman: Brave and the Bold would also be an excellent starting point too, of course rather than Evan hitting people with pans he might just become moody and want to hide in the shadows… ahhhh the teenage years! :P
Of course this looks awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF1r6Rbt9E
.-= Lee´s last blog ..Film number 4 from my top 5 films: Jurassic Park =-.
*tut* My autistic son has benefitted hugely from his horse riding lessons. He has gone from a clumsy awkward boy to someone who is in control of a rather too large (in my opinion) and impressivly powerful beast. His older brothers have also benefitted from his riding lessons as it means they have an oppourtunity to gaze adoringly at all the ‘fit’ instructors. Not that you want you daughter to be lectched at by teenage boys but riding instructing still is…oh dear. I ‘spose I haven’t really sold the ‘riding instructing’ vs Tom and Jerry to you have I? I’ll go now…
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@DJ Kirkby, I’m glad your son finds value in horseriding, but I still think on the whole it’s a dreadful elitist pass time. I’m sick of 14 year old girls clogging up the roads riding animals they only have tenuous control of. My childhood next door neighbour is now paralyzed from the neck down after falling off a horse. Another friend lost his teenage brother to a horseriding accident.
I’m afraid my mind is pretty much made up about horseriding. I’ll accept it in fields, but they should never ever be let out on the roads. They aren’t even insured.
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How come you missed the first quarter of Spiderman 3?
Tom and Jerry are great. As are the Powerpuff Girls.
Both are cartoons, and both are fantastically violent.
@Oli, are powderpuff girls violent?
I’m more of a dexters lab man myself
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I watched those cartoons all the time when I was a kid, and look how I turned out.
Uh… I’ll let you be the judge of what that means.
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@Jeff, I don’t judge you Jeff. I pity you, but don’t judge you.
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Tom and Jerry were the bread and butter of my childhood. We don’t have cable, so my youngest son has taken to watching episodes on various online outlets. And now he and his little sister want to be Tom and Jerry for Halloween.
I’m down with that . . .
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@tysdaddy, sounds good to me. Just make sure their frying pans are made of foam.
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
I was trying to joke with you. Sorry if I offended you or any of your readers.
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@DJ Kirkby, no offense taken at all, it’s me who has the minority view. I just thought I’d explain myself. Sorry if I came across as attacking you.
.-= Dan´s last blog ..They fight. They bite. They bite and fight and bite. =-.
Oh that’s a relief. I am forever inadvertantley offending people.
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I vomited for 2 hours straight when I was 7 after drinking a ‘Tom and Jerry’ flavored milkshake. I haven’t been able to watch them since without feeling ill.
Now, what where you saying?
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Just be careful when selecting his Tom & Jerry diet, for there exists a whole series of cartoons that appear to have been made by a different artist in a different studio, some of them even have the cat speaking, how does that work then ?
These pseudo Tom & Jerry cartoons actually have a very early 1960s minimalist feel about them and are viewable in an arty-farty way, but they are not to be confused with the real thing, in fact if you Wiki T&J then you’ll see the full story.
Best T&J ?
The zoot-suit episode, no contest
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I’m pretty sure that they can distinguish between T&J and reality – the fact that it’s a cartoon is one key difference. And I’m also convinced that the other fact – that it isn’t selling anything – is also very important. As you say, it’s a kind of art.
Come to think of it, so much of the kid’s TV of my childhood involved incredible cartoon violence. Wacky Races, anyone?
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